My wife was surprisingly ok with the idea, even before I showed her my paycheck.
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From what I’ve found rite generally refers to a religious ceremony, which means it would be in the best interest of the catholic church to rename it right to keep the negative connotations away from the church.
The original french term that it came from (Droit de seigneur) literally translates to right as in “the right side”.
“Droit de seigneur” actually translates as “The lord’s right”, and isn’t the same as the alleged Right of First Night. Droit de seigneur basically meant that a lord could do whatever he wanted with his serfs.
The First Night thing an urban legend anyways. Noblemen never felt the need to justify taking sexual advantage of their attractive female serfs, or to limit it to just one night.
But actually now that I think about it, there’s a thing called Right of The First Night, and it’s not a rite at all. It’s the lord having the right to sexually know a local bride at her first night. I don’t know if it’s real or just a rumor.
The original term is “ius primae noctis”, which translates to “right of the first night” as in a legal right. The actual meaning of the term refers to an old rule of the Catholic Church requiring newly married couples to abstain from sex for the first three nights, with reference to the biblical book of Tobit (not found in Protestant bibles, as Martin Luther didn’t like it). The “ius primae noctis” was, properly speaking, the authority to release a couple from this obligation, which in some places was in the hands of the secular rather than the spiritual authorities (who should exercise this and other functions was a constant source of conflict between Church and State in the Middle Ages).
Only in France, as far as I am aware, did local lords take it upon themselves to intervene directly (as it were) under cover of the j.p.n., and even there only rarely.
August 28th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Don’t you mean “rite”?
August 28th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Good question, I’ve seen it used with both.
From what I’ve found rite generally refers to a religious ceremony, which means it would be in the best interest of the catholic church to rename it right to keep the negative connotations away from the church.
The original french term that it came from (Droit de seigneur) literally translates to right as in “the right side”.
Any ideas internet people?
August 28th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
“Droit de seigneur” actually translates as “The lord’s right”, and isn’t the same as the alleged Right of First Night. Droit de seigneur basically meant that a lord could do whatever he wanted with his serfs.
The First Night thing an urban legend anyways. Noblemen never felt the need to justify taking sexual advantage of their attractive female serfs, or to limit it to just one night.
August 29th, 2008 at 1:25 am
“rite” is the formal cerimonical act you refer too (Italian: rito). “Right” is a commin way to mispell it in the US, though
August 29th, 2008 at 1:26 am
The URL was dropped from my comment: http dictionary reference com / browse / rite
August 29th, 2008 at 1:30 am
But actually now that I think about it, there’s a thing called Right of The First Night, and it’s not a rite at all. It’s the lord having the right to sexually know a local bride at her first night. I don’t know if it’s real or just a rumor.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:15 pm
The original term is “ius primae noctis”, which translates to “right of the first night” as in a legal right. The actual meaning of the term refers to an old rule of the Catholic Church requiring newly married couples to abstain from sex for the first three nights, with reference to the biblical book of Tobit (not found in Protestant bibles, as Martin Luther didn’t like it). The “ius primae noctis” was, properly speaking, the authority to release a couple from this obligation, which in some places was in the hands of the secular rather than the spiritual authorities (who should exercise this and other functions was a constant source of conflict between Church and State in the Middle Ages).
Only in France, as far as I am aware, did local lords take it upon themselves to intervene directly (as it were) under cover of the j.p.n., and even there only rarely.